Joint Finnish-German-Swedish debate article for EUObserver - Muutoshistoria

Simmu (9. lokakuuta 2014 kello 17.25)

2014-10-09T17:25:07Z

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	[[Luokka:~~Piraattinuoret]] [[Luokka:International]] [[Luokka:EU]] [[Luokka:Hadopi~~]]		[[Luokka:Arkisto]]

Bobama: Sent to EUObserver

2009-05-17T12:24:02Z

Sent to EUObserver

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	~~Jos on typoja tai muuta korjattavaa niin ehdottakaa vapaasti (vaikka irkissä~~, ~~#piraattinuoret @ PirateNet/IRCnet) tai muokatkaa itse~~. :)		'''Lähetetty EUObserver -sivustolle, ei tarvitse muokata enää. Has been sent to EUObserver. No need to edit anymore.'''

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	The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government to disconnect alleged filesharers' internet-access without a court order is an unprecedented threat to civil rights online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask ~~themselves~~.		The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government to disconnect alleged filesharers' internet-access without a court order is an unprecedented threat to civil rights online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask.

	The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped or restricted.		The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped or restricted.

Bobama: /* Teksti */ information without limits -> the largest source of information

2009-05-16T22:09:29Z

Teksti: information without limits -> the largest source of information

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	It is most distressing that this is a realization that has yet to reach the corridors of power.		It is most distressing that this is a realization that has yet to reach the corridors of power.

	In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and information ~~without limits~~ without at least having a court order. The Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right, refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for the Conciliation procedure this autumn.		In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and the largest source of information without at least having a court order. The Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right, refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for the Conciliation procedure this autumn.

	We represent some twenty thousand European youth, and we urge the ministers of Europe and the Commission to protect the rights of citizens to not have their internet access by any other than a court order. As a society, we can only go so far to try and preserve copyright in the digital environment. And this is quite too far.		We represent some twenty thousand European youth, and we urge the ministers of Europe and the Commission to protect the rights of citizens to not have their internet access by any other than a court order. As a society, we can only go so far to try and preserve copyright in the digital environment. And this is quite too far.

Bobama: first sentence etc, kiitoksia gildeanille avusta

2009-05-16T21:36:25Z

first sentence etc, kiitoksia gildeanille avusta

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	==Teksti==		==Teksti==

	The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government ~~without a court order~~ to disconnect alleged filesharers' internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil ~~liberties~~ online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.		The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government to disconnect alleged filesharers' internet-access without a court order is an unprecedented threat to civil rights online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.

	The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.		The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped or restricted.

	The unfortunate conflict has its basis in the possibilities granted by new technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net users all over the world have spread, remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terabytes of movies, music and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural wealth of our world.		The unfortunate conflict has its basis in the possibilities granted by new technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net users all over the world have spread, remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terabytes of movies, music and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural wealth of our world.
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	No society as yet has ever progressed without copying. We need to preserve copying as a phenomenon if our society is to keep advancing. Copying is the way we learn a language, it's the way we memorise a song. It's the way we learn to recite a passage from a loved book, or the way we tell a friend about a movie we once saw.		No society as yet has ever progressed without copying. We need to preserve copying as a phenomenon if our society is to keep advancing. Copying is the way we learn a language, it's the way we memorise a song. It's the way we learn to recite a passage from a loved book, or the way we tell a friend about a movie we once saw.

	~~The~~ recently passed French bill tries to put a stop to that. And in the process, it stops not only a healthy part of citizens' creativity. It stops their access to communication, fruitful online services and an invaluable source of news, information and knowledge.		This recently passed French bill tries to put a stop to that. And in the process, it stops not only a healthy part of citizens' creativity. It stops their access to communication, fruitful online services and an invaluable source of news, information and knowledge.

	It is most distressing that this is a ~~realisation~~ that has yet to reach the corridors of power.		It is most distressing that this is a realization that has yet to reach the corridors of power.

	In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and information without limits without at least having a court order. The Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right, refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for the Conciliation procedure this autumn.		In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and information without limits without at least having a court order. The Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right, refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for the Conciliation procedure this autumn.

Bobama: linkkejä, luokkia, filesharers'

2009-05-16T20:55:13Z

linkkejä, luokkia, filesharers'

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	The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government without a court order to disconnect alleged filesharers internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil liberties online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.		The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government without a court order to disconnect alleged filesharers' internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil liberties online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.

	The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.		The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.
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	==Muuta (linkkejä)==		==Muuta (linkkejä)==

			* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUobserver
	* http://euobserver.com/		* http://euobserver.com/
			* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADOPI_law
	* https://blog.piraattipuolue.fi/2009/05/ranskan-uusi-laki-200-000-yhteytta-kiinni-vuodessa/		* https://blog.piraattipuolue.fi/2009/05/ranskan-uusi-laki-200-000-yhteytta-kiinni-vuodessa/
	* https://www.piraattipuolue.fi/keskustelupalsta?func=view&catid=536&id=4380		* https://www.piraattipuolue.fi/keskustelupalsta?func=view&catid=536&id=4380


	[[Luokka:Piraattinuoret]]		[[Luokka:Piraattinuoret]] [[Luokka:International]] [[Luokka:EU]] [[Luokka:Hadopi]]

Bobama: /* Teksti */ alleged filesharers

2009-05-16T19:47:53Z

Teksti: alleged filesharers

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	The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government without a court order to disconnect internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil liberties online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.		The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government without a court order to disconnect alleged filesharers internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil liberties online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.

	The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.		The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.

Bobama: /* Teksti */ first sentence changed.

2009-05-16T19:46:22Z

Teksti: first sentence changed.

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	The recently passed French bill allowing a special government ~~branch~~		The recently passed French bill allowing a special branch of government without a court order to disconnect internet-access is an unprecedented threat to civil liberties online. When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge Piraten ask themselves.
	without ~~connection~~ to ~~the rest of judicial system cancel the~~ access ~~to the~~
	~~internet for users~~ is ~~without like in~~ threat to civil liberties online.
	When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can
	be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge
	Piraten ask themselves.

	The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a		The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.
	battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to
	enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the
	world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural
	goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.

	The unfortunate conflict has its basis in the possibilities granted by new		The unfortunate conflict has its basis in the possibilities granted by new technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net users all over the world have spread, remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terabytes of movies, music and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural wealth of our world.
	technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can
	easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as
	YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net users all over the world have spread,
	remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terabytes of movies, music
	and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural
	wealth of our world.

	For one reason or the other, the owners of intellectual property rights		For one reason or the other, the owners of intellectual property rights have perceived this as something negative. They have purposefully and willfully urged legislators to put a stop to creativity and activities inherent to our nature.
	have perceived this as something negative. They have purposefully and
	willfully urged legislators to put a stop to creativity and activities
	inherent to our nature.

	No society as yet has ever progressed without copying. We need to preserve		No society as yet has ever progressed without copying. We need to preserve copying as a phenomenon if our society is to keep advancing. Copying is the way we learn a language, it's the way we memorise a song. It's the way we learn to recite a passage from a loved book, or the way we tell a friend about a movie we once saw.
	copying as a phenomenon if our society is to keep advancing. Copying is the
	way we learn a language, it's the way we memorise a song. It's the way we
	learn to recite a passage from a loved book, or the way we tell a friend
	about a movie we once saw.

	The recently passed French bill tries to put a stop to that. And in the		The recently passed French bill tries to put a stop to that. And in the process, it stops not only a healthy part of citizens' creativity. It stops their access to communication, fruitful online services and an invaluable source of news, information and knowledge.
	process, it stops not only a healthy part of citizens' creativity. It stops
	their access to communication, fruitful online services and an invaluable
	source of news, information and knowledge.

	It is most distressing that this is a realisation that has yet to reach		It is most distressing that this is a realisation that has yet to reach the corridors of power.
	the corridors of power.

	In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of		In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and information without limits without at least having a court order. The Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right, refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for the Conciliation procedure this autumn.
	Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated
	that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have
	their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The
	Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the
	voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good
	idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and
	information without limits without at least having a court order. The
	Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right,
	refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for
	the Conciliation procedure this autumn.

	We represent some twenty thousand European youth, and we urge the ministers		We represent some twenty thousand European youth, and we urge the ministers of Europe and the Commission to protect the rights of citizens to not have their internet access by any other than a court order. As a society, we can only go so far to try and preserve copyright in the digital environment. And this is quite too far.
	of Europe and the Commission to protect the rights of citizens to not have
	their internet access by any other than a court order. As a society, we can
	only go so far to try and preserve copyright in the digital environment.
	And this is quite too far.

	==Muuta (linkkejä)==		==Muuta (linkkejä)==

Bobama: terrabytes (maapallobittitavuja) -> terabytes, kiitos Jonii^

2009-05-16T16:21:56Z

terrabytes (maapallobittitavuja) -> terabytes, kiitos Jonii^

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	technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can		technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can
	easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as		easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as
	YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net		YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net users all over the world have spread,
			remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terabytes of movies, music
	users all over the world have spread,
	remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of ~~terrabytes~~ of movies, music
	and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural		and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural
	wealth of our world.		wealth of our world.

Bobama (16. toukokuuta 2009 kello 16.18)

2009-05-16T16:18:27Z

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			Jos on typoja tai muuta korjattavaa niin ehdottakaa vapaasti (vaikka irkissä, #piraattinuoret @ PirateNet/IRCnet) tai muokatkaa itse. :)

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	* https://blog.piraattipuolue.fi/2009/05/ranskan-uusi-laki-200-000-yhteytta-kiinni-vuodessa/		* https://blog.piraattipuolue.fi/2009/05/ranskan-uusi-laki-200-000-yhteytta-kiinni-vuodessa/
	* https://www.piraattipuolue.fi/keskustelupalsta?func=view&catid=536&id=4380		* https://www.piraattipuolue.fi/keskustelupalsta?func=view&catid=536&id=4380


			[[Luokka:Piraattinuoret]]

Bobama: about the French case

2009-05-16T15:54:43Z

about the French case

Uusi sivu

==Teksti==

The recently passed French bill allowing a special government branch
without connection to the rest of judicial system cancel the access to the
internet for users is without like in threat to civil liberties online.
When will the legislators stop and ask themselves how much of society can
be lost to protect copyright holders? Ung Pirat, Piraattinuoret and Junge
Piraten ask themselves.

The struggle between net users and copyright holders has turned into a
battle seemingly without end. Legislators have went to great trouble to
enforce copyright in the digital environment, while net users all over the
world have claimed that copying, sharing and remixing of existing cultural
goods is something good and positive that should not be stopped.

The unfortunate conflict has its basis in the possibilities granted by new
technology. Through a net connection, any person anywhere on the globe can
easily obtain and spread information to all other users. Via forums such as
YouTube, torrents or fanfiction.net

users all over the world have spread,
remixed and shared thousands upon thousands of terrabytes of movies, music
and literary works. In the process they have greatly added to the cultural
wealth of our world.

For one reason or the other, the owners of intellectual property rights
have perceived this as something negative. They have purposefully and
willfully urged legislators to put a stop to creativity and activities
inherent to our nature.

No society as yet has ever progressed without copying. We need to preserve
copying as a phenomenon if our society is to keep advancing. Copying is the
way we learn a language, it's the way we memorise a song. It's the way we
learn to recite a passage from a loved book, or the way we tell a friend
about a movie we once saw.

The recently passed French bill tries to put a stop to that. And in the
process, it stops not only a healthy part of citizens' creativity. It stops
their access to communication, fruitful online services and an invaluable
source of news, information and knowledge.

It is most distressing that this is a realisation that has yet to reach
the corridors of power.

In a recent conflict between the European Parliament and the Council of
Ministers regarding the Telecoms package, the Parliament clearly indicated
that they wished to preserve some kind of right for citizens' not to have
their network connections arbitrarily removed by non-judicial branches. The
Parliament, more prone than other institutions of the EU to listen to the
voice of reason of the citizens, realised that maybe it wasn't such a good
idea to cut citizens' access to communication, online services and
information without limits without at least having a court order. The
Council of Ministers, set on ridding themselves of such a petty right,
refused flat out. Now those amendments of the Telecoms package are up for
the Conciliation procedure this autumn.

We represent some twenty thousand European youth, and we urge the ministers
of Europe and the Commission to protect the rights of citizens to not have
their internet access by any other than a court order. As a society, we can
only go so far to try and preserve copyright in the digital environment.
And this is quite too far.

==Muuta (linkkejä)==

* http://euobserver.com/
* https://blog.piraattipuolue.fi/2009/05/ranskan-uusi-laki-200-000-yhteytta-kiinni-vuodessa/
* https://www.piraattipuolue.fi/keskustelupalsta?func=view&catid=536&id=4380